Episode 2495 – On this Friday’s show Vinnie Tortorich speaks with Dr. Cate Shanahan about her new book about oxidative stress, the downside of working against nature, and more.

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Root Causes of Oxidative Stress

• Cate first noticed issues in pro basketball players. (2:30)
  • What she found out was a symptom of metabolic problems.
• Dr. Shanahan was one of the early voices who emphasized the toxicity of seed oils. (6:00)
  • She explains how she started paying attention to seed oils.
  • Her background in biochemical engineering transitioned to medical school; however, her personal medical issues led her to a deep dive into health.
• Her book “Dark Calories” is available in Vinnie’s Book Club here https://amzn.to/3V6JAYk .
  • She explains the meaning behind the name. (13:00)
  • Metabolic disease is rampant.
  • Being “hangry” is a sign of insulin resistance, which is a stage of metabolic disease.
  • New standards of testing need to happen; she’s a big believer in using the HOMA-IR testing.
• They discuss oxidative stress and seed oils and how they are included in many things. (20:00)
  • She defines what she has named as “The Hateful 8.”
  • It’s a similar effect of oxidation as cigarette smoking.
• Vinnie asks her about her list called the “Delightful Dozen.” (27:00)
• She hopes to get more doctors on board in expanding the message regarding various oils and the effects of oxidative stress. (35:00)
  • Free radical particles are caused by oxidative stress; vegetable oils are “oxidative stress in a bottle.” (42:30)
  • Empty calories from processed foods and sugars can cause them too.
  • She also challenges the use of protein powders. (46:00)
• Respecting Nature and how it works is important; trying to “outsmart” nature is a dead-end game. (54:00)
• The energy model of insulin resistance has to do with your body not being able to use its body fat as fuel. (56:00)
• Her book “Dark Calories” provides information that can help you reduce cravings while you heal from insulin resistance. (57:00)

Working Against Nature

• Vinnie asks Cate how can people do better. (59:00)
  • She provides several practical food suggestions.
  • “Root cause” knowledge will help you.
• They pivot to cholesterol. (1:04:00)
  • Cholesterol is a nutrient—it is a building block of cells and hormones.
  • The egg is the most complete package of nutrients you can get.
• There are plenty of untruths in the “Game Changers” film; they elaborate. (1:06:00)
• You need to know what is both good and bad about the medical system.
  • The conversation on nutrition is the American College on Lifestyle Medicine, which is a Seventh-Day Adventist group promoting their religious stance on eating and lifestyle. (1:10:00)
• Vinnie asks Cate’s take on GLP-1s. (1:14:00)
  • She is against them for many reasons; the first one is that those drugs are working against Nature.
  • Acute muscle loss is happening to patients on drugs like Ozempic; remember your heart is a muscle.
  • She lists other concerns she has about them.
• There’s a new NSNG® Foods promo code you can use! (53:00)
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• Vinnie’s new documentary “Dirty Keto” is out! Go to this link to get it at https://vinnietortorich.com/dirtyketo/!

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