Episode 2522 – On this Friday’s show Vinnie Tortorich speaks with farmers Natalie Kovarik and Tara Vander Dussen to discuss agriculture, climate, food sovereignty, raw milk, and more.
Managing the Landscape
- The political landscape has been on fire lately, but knowing that there is a steadiness between the extremes is comforting. (2:00)
- Natalie is a cattle rancher and Tara is a dairy farmer and have been involved with agriculture for decades.
- They are co-hosts of a podcast called “Discover Ag” discussing agriculture and where your food comes from. (9:00)
- They discuss some of the challenges they encounter, such as animal activists. (11:00)
- The fringe sides can drum up a lot of attention.
- Regarding food, science and emotions are put on the same level. (25:00)
- They discuss the conversation over the decades about fat, cholesterol, and the health of meat. (29:00)
Food Sovereignty and the Climate
- The discussion about carbon footprints is also a challenge. (34:00)
- Carbon emissions for farming are nuanced; there are many factors to consider.
- It’s not just “carbon in, carbon out.”
- Ruminants keep soil healthy enough to grow food.
- The truth is nature is harsh, but society has been molded by “the Disney effect.” (38:00)
- They discuss the climate over 100 years ago. (43:30)
- Lab-grown or cultured meat is gives a false sense of being better for the environment, yet it takes all kinds of energy to make it. (45:00)
- There is not enough data available to explain the implications, let alone make claims of “benefits.”
- Vinnie shares his inspiration for “Beyond Impossible.”
- Countries having food sovereignty is important.
- A “food patent” raises the question of who gets to own the source of food for others. (49:00)
- A good example of what happens with this is how Big Pharma controls meds and their cost and availability.
- They share an enthusiasm for rodeo and bull riding. (58:00)
Educated Food Choice
- Raw milk vs. Homogenized milk. (58:00)
- They are for food choice.
- Pasteurization was crucial to food in history at one time.
- There’s a new NSNG® Foods promo code you can use: enter VINNIE and get 15% off! (25:00)
- The promo code ONLY works on the NSNG® Foods website, NOT on Amazon. https://nsngfoods.com
- Vinnie’s new documentary “Dirty Keto” is out soon! Go to this link to get it at https://vinnietortorich.com/dirtyketo/!
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